Timeline for Please undo the synonymisation of the tag disability with health-issues
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| Feb 8, 2021 at 17:52 | comment | added | TLDR | @BobsaysreinstateMonica I believe the idea here is to allow a distinction to be made between disability and more general health-related questions, rather than to impose it. Users would be free to use both tags at once. | |
| Sep 13, 2020 at 18:28 | comment | added | Bob says reinstate Monica | As someone with a disability, I find the social model of disability incredibly patronising and dehumanising. My disability is very much a health issue, and I'm desperate for a cure. To suggest that my disability is not a health issue and is a socially-created condition is extremely insulting and complete BS on so many levels. YMMV | |
| Sep 9, 2020 at 0:00 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackAcademia/status/1303483258030764032 | ||
| Sep 8, 2020 at 19:47 | comment | added | Tsundoku | @Astara Those are valid concerns, but this question is about getting rid of the medical bias with regard to disability, not about discrimination in general. Academia SE already has tags for ethnicity (synonymised with race) and discrimination. | |
| Sep 8, 2020 at 19:43 | comment | added | Tsundoku |
@BryanKrause I have suggested the term disability-inclusion in a separate answer. I prefer it over accessibility in spite my awareness of the ADA, because accessiblity usually refers to "to the design of products, devices, services, or environments so as to be usable by people with disabilities", i.e. technical aspects, whereas questions related to disability inclusion on Academia SE focus on social aspects rather than strictly technical ones.
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| Sep 8, 2020 at 19:19 | comment | added | Astara | Forgive my, perhaps, overgeneralizing, but ... It seems there may be a fair amount of common ground between those who are discriminated against (for race, creed, color, religion, sex, gender, disability) -- all because they are different from some perceived "norm". While each area has different challenges, all exist because of some perceived 'norm' and the lack of acceptance or discrimination against (conscious or unconscious) of those who don't fit people's mental model of "normal". A question: what is more normal: having such biases or not? Can a society be cohesive if it has no norms? | |
| Sep 8, 2020 at 16:15 | comment | added | Bryan Krause Mod | Coming from a US perspective, the "Americans with Disabilities Act" is a quite central piece of legislation that adds the "disability" label to a lot of things. I'm sympathetic to reframing the way we talk about disability, but it remains true that at US universities you will probably encounter the "disability office" rather than the "accessibility office" or "inclusion office" (and the latter is more likely to refer to racial inclusion, non-native English speakers, religious minorities, etc). | |
| Sep 7, 2020 at 14:41 | answer | added | WrzlprmftMod | timeline score: 6 | |
| Sep 7, 2020 at 11:44 | answer | added | Tsundoku | timeline score: 3 | |
| Sep 6, 2020 at 23:48 | comment | added | Azor Ahai -him- |
@Tsundoku Works for me. I would suggest though, that as a meta question, you make your suggested tags answers so we can vote on them; right now it's not clear what a vote up on this question means, does it mean "this is a valid concern," "accessiblity is a good tag," or "disability-inclusion is a good tag."
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| Sep 6, 2020 at 23:46 | comment | added | Tsundoku |
@AzorAhai--hehim I see your point about inclusion, so I have added disability-inclusion as an alternative.
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| Sep 6, 2020 at 23:45 | history | edited | Tsundoku | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
alternative tag: disability-inclusion
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| Sep 6, 2020 at 23:34 | comment | added | Azor Ahai -him- | It's like how we have [sexual-misconduct] and [personal-misconduct] instead of just [misconduct] | |
| Sep 6, 2020 at 23:33 | comment | added | Azor Ahai -him- | @Araucaria-Nothereanymore. Okay, sure, but someone who is an expert in building inclusive learning environments is not an expert in helping someone with physical or mental disabilities navigate the university system. So when thinking of the tag as "helping experts find questions they can answer," I don't think it's as good as it could be. | |
| Sep 6, 2020 at 23:26 | comment | added | user96809 | @AzorAhai--hehim Actually, "How to help people with physical access" is basically, "How to not exclude people through physical access barriers" in disguise. And the issues you mention are, in fact, all related. | |
| Sep 5, 2020 at 23:42 | comment | added | Azor Ahai -him- |
I do not think inclusion is a good tag for this application. It's too vague - is it about including first-generation students, is it about including women in a men-dominated field? It suggests to me "making people feel welcome" which is not the same as "how to help people physical access X."
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| Sep 5, 2020 at 20:59 | history | edited | Tsundoku | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
'inclusion' as alternative to 'accessibility'.
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| Sep 5, 2020 at 0:48 | comment | added | Noah Snyder | Oh that's why my changing that tag kept reverting for no apparent reason. Yes, this is a terrible synonym. | |
| Sep 4, 2020 at 21:11 | comment | added | Azor Ahai -him- | I'm not sure about that, but it's not that important, I don't think. | |
| Sep 4, 2020 at 21:09 | comment | added | Tsundoku |
@AzorAhai--hehim Which seems to support the argument that disability is a poor choice for a tag name...
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| Sep 4, 2020 at 21:07 | comment | added | Azor Ahai -him- | Well, yes, since questions about the impairments themselves would off-topic, no? | |
| Sep 4, 2020 at 21:02 | comment | added | Tsundoku |
@AzorAhai--hehim accessibility would be the best fit for questions such as "How do conferences work for deaf scientists?", "Teaching visual tools for visually impaired students?" and "Oral Defense for Hearing Impaired Student"; these questions are about integrating persons with specific impairments, not about the impairments as such. Synonymizing accessibilitywith disability would be less objectionable than the current situation.
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| Sep 4, 2020 at 20:15 | comment | added | Azor Ahai -him- | I like moving to "accessibility" anyway ... would synonymizing both to that still be problematic? I confess I'm not understanding the nuance here completely after a couple of reads. But thanks for bringing it up! | |
| Sep 4, 2020 at 16:56 | answer | added | WrzlprmftMod | timeline score: 7 | |
| Sep 4, 2020 at 15:42 | history | became hot meta post | |||
| Sep 4, 2020 at 12:52 | history | asked | Tsundoku | CC BY-SA 4.0 |